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Two days shy of exactly two months, I decided to proceed and rack my three one-gallon batches of JAOM (I'm going out of town and wanted to get it going beforehand). I have been posting on another member's page (xanderphillips) about his first meads, but I thought that it might help others in the future if I made my own thread about JAOM.

Looking back, one of the biggest things I would advise to the new brewer: DRY YOUR STOPPERS! My very first brew, I didn't know that my rubber stopper needed to be dry, so when I muscled it down into my carboy (it wouldn't stay in place), it sloshed right through into my brew! After lots of work, transfer, and contamination worries, I was able to fetch out the stopper. Simply dry the sides of your stoppers and your carboys and this shouldn't be a problem. If you are worried about contamination, dry them off with a sanitized paper towel (I have read).

Also, I duct-taped my stoppers down in place, due to the pressure of early fermentation. This worked well, I don't think it's a necessity, but it did make me feel better about leaving the brews unattended. On my current brew, I have used the metal wiring which holds down the corks on Chimay bottles. I took this metal wire and tried to tighten down the stoppers around the lip of the carboy.

I used Star San and PBW for cleaning. I was relieved today to find that after initially racking my three meads out of their primaries, the PBW and some gentle scrubbing with a brush cleaned up the carboys relatively easy. After rinsing and allowing to drain, I soaked them each in Star San for about ten minutes and drained. They looked brand new.

Go easy on the spices! I proceeded with GROUND clove (even after Joe instructs NOT to deviate from his recipe -- I chose the wrong cloves on accident) and on my first batch, put an entire teaspoon in the brew. This is a lot of clove for such a small batch. On my most recent, I used 1/16 of a teaspoon on spices, and I didn't even use clove.

First batch: OG: 1.141 FG: 1.040ish
Second: OG: 1.138 FG: 1.030ish
Third: OG: 1.141 FG: 1.030ish

These three batches were made with local wildflower honey.

I have sampled and racked all three. While the first is relatively hot and spicy("clovey!"), it's still pretty darn good. I can't stop drinking it, even while it's crude and on the lees! I'm a pretty big beer drinker and alcohol consumer in general, so I'm not very hard to satisfy. Most may find these brews unpleasant, but the joy of making it myself along with the reflection of enjoying a good drink has really made the process a blast.

Since I've dabbled into the first batch so much, and because I tried to drown it with clove, I'll probably drink it up. The last two, I'll rack once more, and then I'll bottle and stow them away. I fully intend to put these drinks aside, forget about them, and come back years later to taste. I have even told my wife that if I die, she has to drink them or give them to my neighbors hah. ;D

I must give credit to Skyrim, as I bought this game to get me through a military deployment recently. Turned out that I couldn't play it at my location downrange, so when I returned home I hit it heavy and became indoctrinated with "mead". I'm not the first heh, go read about mead and Skyrim. I'm glad that I took the fall, because it's been not only a blast, but a learning experience and the drink isn't bad! And still these are the introductory brews of course.

If anyone feels compelled to ask any questions, please post up. I will try to answer but I'm still a novice myself. Lots of the vets browse these threads as well though so rest assure the right person is here to help you out.


PS-- I have a FOURTH brew currently under way. I decided to all out abandon the orange and go straight for strawberry, and I've been reading about all of the horror-story-explosions haha. True to form, my gallon is already blowing off the charts, once the air lock has blown off, and I've been cleaning up the foam for about half an hour. I drained a bit of must, stowed the stopper with the Chimay wiring and left the brew in a sink, so we'll see what it looks like in the morning. I made some other very big, gambling deviations and I'll follow up when I have more to say!

In my astronomy forum, the posters say "Clear Skies" as a farewell. I guess I'll leave you with "Bottoms Up!".
 
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Nice to see you're quickly becoming addicted to mead. Same thing happened to me. Can you tell me why you are finding it necessary to tie down your stoppers? It shouldn't be that way. The pressure escapes from the airlock.... you ARE using an airlock, right?

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Yeah haha, well, the first batches I just used duct tape because I had it lying around (put it around the airlocks). And really, that's just because I put the stoppers on when they were wet. I didn't know at the time that I was having a hard time because they were wet.

This recent batch, with strawberries, good god, the thing exploded all the way to the ceiling. That's why I used wiring to hold it down. Of course, the airlock completely filled with the brew and I had to remove it and clean it several times.
 
Oh and mannye, on a different note, I'm currently up in Michigan and I have access to several store-bought meads. Do you know of any in particular that would be a nice gift to take home? I can give you brands and types in the next few days. I know I read that some of them are are brewed from honey and grapes, while others are cysers and things like that, and there are a few that are straight honey,water, and yeast. I know there were some from the B.Nektar Meadery, and there were a few other breweries.I was delighted because I have only seen one bottle of mead for sell in my local area back at home, and it was the Zombie Killer from B. Nektar.
 
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Actually Zombie Killer is a tasty mead (technically a melomel) and it packs a punch. So far, B Nektar for me have been the nicest I've tried although sometimes I find they have a little artificial taste about them. Of course that's my take. I am in no way saying that they use anything artificial. B Nektar of all the commercial brands in my opinion has some of the best product and distribution. However, most of them are carbonated and most of them have some kind of fruit flavoring. It is actually a good thing because someone tasting mead for the first time will probably really like it a lot. If you get those bottles really cold it's very easy to down two of them and get yourself nice and drunk! Also not a bad thing.

I have not yet tried a commercial traditional mead I can say I really like. Especially not a still one. Redstone Meadery has a nice lightly carbonated mead that I like.

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My those prices are high! The only one besides the Redstone I've liked is the Zombie Killer...I haven't tried any of those other B Nek meads... I will warn you OFF of one however, and that's the "Dunratty MEADE" It's not real. It's white wine with honey flavoring.
 
I have never seen a better beer selection in a store than here. I literally almost cried when I walked in.
 
Which one of the Redstones did you like Mannye? I noticed there's a few on the top shelf.
 
Which one of the Redstones did you like Mannye? I noticed there's a few on the top shelf.
I forget the name, but it's just mead. I think it's the one all the way to the right that seems to say "Traditional" on it. I remember a carbonic bite right at the start that annoyed me, but don't let that put you off. All my friends say I'm like a psycho and imagining things when I say that. I had the same reaction to Monk's Mead and Monteluce Mead in Georgia. However, once I got past the carbonation "issue" (which again, is most likely my onw probalem, not Redstone's) Redstone's Mead was nice to drink.
 
A friend just came back (well, 2 weeks ago) from Denver or Bolder or wherever Redstone is located. He tried a couple of theirs. One with hops (he's a beer brewer), which he found 'interesting', and one that he described as "just too sweet". Whichever it was, he said it was what they use in their "meadmosa".

I guess if I'd been a better friend, he might have brought a bottle back for me. ;) Although at the prices I see listed on their sight, even I don't think I'm that good a friend. :0

Joe
 
Yeah I'm not a fan of mead with hops just yet. I tried the Viking Blod (hops and hibiscus) and aside from having the greatest bottle of all time, I wasn't liking what was in it. Commercial meads all tend to be a little hard on the pocketbook. I guess because it's still a very small industry and costs are very high compared to a winery making thousands of gallons. I still try to at least get a few bottles to try whenever I get the chance. Heck, I even got some Chaucer's once. ONCE.
 
Agreed on mead pricing. For most of them (Redstone's), I don't think they're outrageous, just higher than a cheap guy like me would be comfortable paying. The prices aren't in the stratosphere, and I haven't had the opportunity to try the meads myself. For all I know they're outstanding and well worth the price.

On the down-side, if they ARE that good, it'll sour me on MINE! <lol>

Joe
 
Thanks for all of the input. Yes the traditional mead from Redstone is what I first picked up. I noticed the kill the golfers b nektar bottle as well. I'll probably visit the store one more time for a recon and then tell u guys which are my finalist. Then we can vote on a winner!

Thanks again for the comments!
 
Thanks for all of the input. Yes the traditional mead from Redstone is what I first picked up. I noticed the kill the golfers b nektar bottle as well. I'll probably visit the store one more time for a recon and then tell u guys which are my finalist. Then we can vote on a winner!

Thanks again for the comments!
 
Hahaha, yeah. A guy I was with this trip is originally from Puerto Rico, and he received a call this weekend that his son had wrecked his car into someone's down there and they demanded $1,000. Of course, my buddy doesn't have any kids and lives in DC haha.

Okay so I bought two meads! The first: Redstone with Juniper Berries, and the second, the "Kill All the Golfers" from b.Nektar. The latter has tea and lemon juice as additional ingredients. I want to find some recipes for brewing my own that include tea, so I thought it would be a nice reference. Plus, we did enjoy the Zombie Killer.

I had some great belgian tripels up here too. To name a few and others, I had Westmalle's Tripel, Rochefort 10, Chimay 2012 Grand Reserve (which was over-pressurized and exploded upon opening, which resulted in it tasting flat), Kasteel Tripel, Ovila Abbey Dubbel (California), the Ommegang Three Philosophers (which I had before), English Hobgoblin (which I thought was terrible), König Ludwig Weissbier Hell, and probably one or two that I'm forgetting. Haha, yeah I did a good bit of drinking here, but this is kind of a vacation/work away from the fam. Plus, my beer selection at home is much smaller than here.
 
Haha. Kill all the golfers. I'm sitting in my golf clubhouse now! I have to get some of that to give these guys to drink.

Please post your impressions once you try them.


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