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Um...I'm a somewhat well-known gal on the Southern Ren Fest circuit. I set up the fireworks at the big shows here in East Texas and have a soap/herb shop at some of the smaller fairs. That means I have LOTS of friends & acquaintances who enjoy drinking mead and heartily support my hobby. Of course, there's no shortage of fight club referrences or jokes about the local pseudo-speakeasy being run by the explosives expert.

And I DO like it sweet! Ruby port was my fav back in the ole’ drinking days! Anyhoo, beggars can't be choosers: the people who fuss about my style are the people who get cut off first! Though, honestly, the only complaints I get are that my creations are too strong. Lightweights. :rolleyes:
 
Pansies.

Besides...if they don't like it, they can go elsewhere. Hmmmpf.
:cool:

So do you get the why do you make it if you don't drink comments alla time?
 
If you don't drink, how do you know if it tastes good before you share it? Sip and spit? :eek:

I used to spit, but it's not an effective method of tasting. So I take tiny tastes. I figure if I can take an herbal tincture (herbs soaked in vodka), drink kombucha, use mouthwash, take cough medicine, or eat a reduction sauce (the ETOH does not all burn off - that's a myth), then the tiny amount of ETOH in a taste of homebrew isn't going to harm me.
 
...snip...(the ETOH does not all burn off - that's a myth), ...snip....

OK, I'm intrigued and know that there is not a complete elimination of alcohol in flaming, but in most cases that's not the goal. Alcohol (EtOH) is consumed and largely eliminated as fuel during the flaming off which will concentrate the flavor of the spirit being used, and significantly reduce the content of the alcohol.

...snip...I used to spit, but it's not an effective method of tasting. ...snip....

Again, I'm intrigued. To my knowledge the taste buds are limited to the mouth and epiglottis, so drinking doesn't really buy you anything. In my experience, and based on the basic and advanced training courses I've taken over the years. Coating the soft-palate, tongue and epiglottis with what is being tasted properly, takes practice, and spitting does not in any way detract from that experience. In fact, when judging it is necessary in order to give due consideration to a full flight of entries. Especially if you have to taste/judge several flights of mead, beer or wine over the course of an entire day.

Cheers,

Oskaar
 
OK, I'm intrigued and know that there is not a complete elimination of alcohol in flaming, but in most cases that's not the goal. Alcohol (EtOH) is consumed and largely eliminated as fuel during the flaming off which will concentrate the flavor of the spirit being used, and significantly reduce the content of the alcohol.

I got the impression that she meant just boiling, not flambe-ing. Even so, I would be surprised if all the alcohol was consumed in the flames--there is a lower limit to the concentration of fuel (vapor) that will actually burn. I imagine it's a pretty small amount for ethanol though. Just don't tell the folks in Maine. ;)
 
OK, I'm intrigued and know that there is not a complete elimination of alcohol in flaming, but in most cases that's not the goal. Alcohol (EtOH) is consumed and largely eliminated as fuel during the flaming off which will concentrate the flavor of the spirit being used, and significantly reduce the content of the alcohol.



Again, I'm intrigued. To my knowledge the taste buds are limited to the mouth and epiglottis, so drinking doesn't really buy you anything. In my experience, and based on the basic and advanced training courses I've taken over the years. Coating the soft-palate, tongue and epiglottis with what is being tasted properly, takes practice, and spitting does not in any way detract from that experience. In fact, when judging it is necessary in order to give due consideration to a full flight of entries. Especially if you have to taste/judge several flights of mead, beer or wine over the course of an entire day.

Cheers,

Oskaar

Man, you guys are sharp! I love it.

In regards to the first question: I don't drink for spiritual reasons as of 3 years ago, but I'm not strict about it. According to several of the world's traditions, the consumption of intoxicants or brewed beverages is prohibited (Buddhists, Mormons, etc.) Some strict followers of said traditions will avoid foods prepared with ETOH, while others don't because there is a myth about the ETOH burning off -- hence they use the myth to justify consuming the food. In truth, the ETOH does NOT all burn off. While the ETOH is reduced, there is still ETOH in the finished product. I eat foods prepared with ETOH because I like the way they taste. I am aware that they have some ETOH content, but I'm not overly concerned about it since the content does not affect me in an intoxicating fashion. I guess what I'm saying is that it's a personal choice, but I feel it's important that I make informed choices rather than fooling myself into thinking something is true so I can continue to pat myself on the back for being a good girl.

In regards to tasting, allow me to rephrase: spitting is not an effective method of tasting for me. I don't know if it's just the way I'm built of if my technique is poor, but the bitter and sour taste receptors of my tongue are so far in the back of my mouth that I can't help but let a few drops trickle down the back of my throat when I pass a sample of mead across the full length of my palate. Also, when I take time to breathe with a sample in my mouth in order to get the full aromatic experience, some goes down my throat. It's either that, or gag. Trust me, I've done both and swallowing is better. For me.

I've had samples of mead where I thought it was a great bottle using the spitting technique, only to find MAJOR flaws in the same bottle using the tiny taste technique. I realize that judges have far superior training to an enthusiast like I, but I can't honestly say that I spit out all the mead that goes in my mouth if I've tasted it in a manner that gives me a complete opinion of the sample. Human beings are very diverse, including the palate, so I'm sure there is a good amount of variation in not only mechanics of the mouth but also in chemical receptor type/concentration/etc. Like this broccoli study, for example!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060918165721.htm

Thanks for keeping me on my toes! :)
 
I ran across an article just a few weeks ago in reference to cooking with alcohol and the amount residual amount and found it quite amazing how much alcohol was retained. There was a study that showed as much as 75% of the alcohol is still present after flaming food. I'm not sure if I can attach the link legally but if you do a search on "Minnesota Nutrition Council Newsletter" and alcohol you can find the study results. Also, this information is repeated in a Wikipedia entry "Cooking with Alcohol" under the section "Alcohol in finished food".

It was very surprising to me.

Love your site!!

Cheers,
Ken
 
AA, great article. I'll have to read it more thoroughly when I have a free moment.

Good information Wannabee, I'll check that link.

I'm off to imbibe lots of EtOH for my Parents' 60th Wedding Anniversary!