Buckwheat honey ?

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fatbloke

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Ok, you lot will have to "take it as given" that it can be very hard work getting hold of "proper" Buckwheat honey here, and probably many other places where the range of varietals is more limited than how it appears in the US market.

I sometimes read of people on the "Western side of the pond" moaning about having to ship from one side of the US to the other. If that was my only problem, then I'd be "like a pig in sh1te".

So, it's like this. I've got one source I'm going to try out here, but so far, the only Buckwheat honey I've been able to obtain was sourced from Poland, courtesy of a hell of a lot of assistance from Marek (u/n Male).

Anyway, it's lovely stuff. Yet I've also read conflicting descriptions of US sourced Buckwheat honey, and that "Eastern" buckwheat is the one that is often dark and has been known to have a "farm yard" character, whereas it would seem that "Western" buckwheat is lighter in colour, with a less sweet, possibly "malty" characteristic to it (maybe someone with personal experience of them can confirm or deny, or just do a better job of explaining the appearance/flavour).

Now it would seem that the Polish sourced buckwheat honey is more like my description of "Western" buckwheat honey.

With all that lot in mind, and having been reading recipes where buckwheat honey is used, I have a mind to try to "approximate" or "fake" buckwheat honey here, with a view to approximating it so we who find it hard to get/locate easily, can enjoy something close to it.

I was thinking that 1lb of a wild flower honey, with maybe 1 teaspoon of Black Treacle (proper molasses isn't routinely available, other than as animal feed here) and maybe 2 teaspoons of liquid Malt Extract might do the job and come close enough to the genuine article ?

Of course, I could vary the amount of Black Treacle and Malt Extract either way, but not having ever had "proper" Buckwheat honey other than the supply I got from Poland a couple of years ago, I could only ever approximate how I "see the taste" in my mind (that's if you can imagine such a thing ;D ).

Any comments or suggestions as to whether this is a practical idea would be much appreciated. I do have a local Apiary supplier who also sells bulk honey, but nowhere near the range of somewhere like Beefolks etc....... and certainly no "proper" Buckwheat honey.......
 
The problem if you're dealing with inauthentic sellers, is being darker or lighter isn't a guarantee of much. Dark appearance could just be adulterated honey/buckwheat honey, lightness may be of a lower 'quality' but one would think unadulterated.. I haven't heard of regional based claims, but this is Canada, and things don't transport too much.

Treacle, I don't think would be a good substitute to replicate the honey, but perhaps a fermented product, since some of the 'tang' and bitterness might fade. Can't comment on malt. The buckwheats I've had were quite sweet, subtle, mildly earthy (like the smell of dried hay may 'taste' in the air) and some kind of smokiness... Tough to describe, but if I were REALLY tired or hungry, without looking, I might not even notice a difference.


Without a taste for it, and even then, it would be hard to identify. In this case, my advice would be to take any dealer you see as reputable, or seemingly reputable, and let price decide, since it is a small gamble anyway.

I can't even offer to mail a sample from the apiary here because it closed until .. May I think..
 
:) It's kind of hard to approximate something you've never tasted with something we've never tasted, no idea how black treacle compares to anything. I haven't had straight local buckwheat honey in years because as a kid I found it weird and preferred regular clover honey but barnyard wasn't the kind of description I remember. Earthy, perhaps. I'll have to get some more and see what I think of it as an adult, I'm kind of surprised myself that I never bothered to taste it when I have used it in meads.
 
:) It's kind of hard to approximate something you've never tasted with something we've never tasted, no idea how black treacle compares to anything. I haven't had straight local buckwheat honey in years because as a kid I found it weird and preferred regular clover honey but barnyard wasn't the kind of description I remember. Earthy, perhaps. I'll have to get some more and see what I think of it as an adult, I'm kind of surprised myself that I never bothered to taste it when I have used it in meads.
The black treacle is similar to molasses but a bit more refined, is probably the best description.

I was just mulling over the idea of a bit of that to give a normal type of honey some darker colour and then the liquid malt extract to give it some character.

There isn't much, if any here so I can only compare it to the Polish buckwheat I got and that was just like normal honey, if a little darker but with some quite malt like characteristics, hence asking what others thought of the idea of "approximating" it with the 2 non-honey materials.....

Still, if it's a non-starter, that's fine, it's just an idea.......
 
Buckwheat honey has always been one of my favourites.

It does have a bit of an earthy molasses flavour to it. When I get home tonight, I can do a proper tasting (I have quite a bit kicking around.) and try to give it as much description as I can.

-- Steve
 
I'd describe Heather honey as having a 'farm yard' aroma - wondering if there's any similarity between the two?
Now see I've used the English heather honey from Paynes but whenever I've checked out the prices for Scottish heather honey its been too expensive.

Yet I don't recall anything that suggested farmyard to me....maybe I'll get another jar next time I go up there and see if I follow your idea SJ...
 
My experience with buckwheat honey was that it had a toffee/coffee taste to it. Nothing "farm yard" about it.

I got a honey straw from Laney Honey in Indiana here in the states.
 
Those are not bad prices, our local guys sell a 12 pounds gallon for about 50$ right now of the local varietals.

As for buckwheat it seems to really be a terrior situation almost. I have tasted only a couple of different sources, one was very rich, something that you would almost have to get used to but we were more than willing thinking about making a mead out of it, the next one we tasted was horrible, very clear funky barnyard, and I have a barnyard and know what that tastes like, we kept going back to taste it thinking we were just being to picky but the taste was clearly there each time, never finished that jar. None of these were from our local guys. Last year I planted buckwheat so our bees would have something to get pollen and nectar from in the late summer, going to do the same thing again for them this year, we wont have enough for a varietal honey but if a little gets mixed in with everything else it will be a good mix.

Now if you want funky smells, sniff some goldenrod honey while the bees are making it, dirty gym socks warn by a bunch of soccer freaks all week is probably pretty close.

WVMJ