Mead in Saudi?

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tried the lychee today and it didn't turn out that well IMO, it might get better with age though, who knows.

I've made a lot of wines myself, and sometimes age really does make a difference... I think we have the same problems with lychee here as you have with raspberries there!

I've used fresh figs before and they were pretty nice, I used some starfruit in that batch too I think, and it was a JAO-based experiment. You have to be careful of the seeds though, sometimes they get all caught up in foam and can make a mess... I made that batch in a 1-gal jar and had to keep the jar in a bucket because it kept overflowing.

If you're going to try a mead, I heartily suggest a JAO at some point in the proceedings. Make it according to the recipe once, get a feel for how the acidity from the juice and bitterness from the orange peel balances the sweetness... THEN you can try messing with it, we'll all have plenty of suggestions for you! I suggest if you try the fig idea with the JAO base (3.5 lb honey per gallon, use bread yeast) you use the juice of one lemon per gallon or it'll come out too syrupy.

If you're going to do a traditional mead without adding fruit for flavour, I would suggest you add a handful of raisins per gallon as nutrients. Making wines is usually easier than making meads because the honey doesn't have a lot of nutrients to offer the yeast, whereas fruit wines definitely do.
 
Dark and cool is probably a challenge in Saudi Arabia.....

Not too bad actually, although I'm in the capital Riyadh which is right in the middle of the desert we do have A/C at home and a big wardrobe. It gets surprisingly cold here in winter too.
 
Being in the middle east, you probably have access to some great figs! I made a mead with figs that tasted amazing.

Have seen them in the supermarket, what about dates though? They are in abundance here and very cheap, also very high in sugar content too.
 
I've made a lot of wines myself, and sometimes age really does make a difference... I think we have the same problems with lychee here as you have with raspberries there!

I've used fresh figs before and they were pretty nice, I used some starfruit in that batch too I think, and it was a JAO-based experiment. You have to be careful of the seeds though, sometimes they get all caught up in foam and can make a mess... I made that batch in a 1-gal jar and had to keep the jar in a bucket because it kept overflowing.

If you're going to try a mead, I heartily suggest a JAO at some point in the proceedings. Make it according to the recipe once, get a feel for how the acidity from the juice and bitterness from the orange peel balances the sweetness... THEN you can try messing with it, we'll all have plenty of suggestions for you! I suggest if you try the fig idea with the JAO base (3.5 lb honey per gallon, use bread yeast) you use the juice of one lemon per gallon or it'll come out too syrupy.

If you're going to do a traditional mead without adding fruit for flavour, I would suggest you add a handful of raisins per gallon as nutrients. Making wines is usually easier than making meads because the honey doesn't have a lot of nutrients to offer the yeast, whereas fruit wines definitely do.

any idea about dates? They're similar to raisins but a lot bigger and sweeter.
 
Actually one of my favourite JAO variants used lemon and dates (most of the time we get them so dried they're hard here), it turned out quite well! I think I just chopped up a big handful and used them in place of the raisins.
 
So here's a quick update. I can make basic meads okay and I've played around with the ratios of honey to water to find out what I like. I then started making some with dates. The first lot was 3kg of honey, 1 kg of dates and about 7 litres of water, amd I would say that the taste of the dates was too strong. I've only just done the first siphon but it tasted that way anyway. The second lot was as above but with 1/2kg of dates and 8 litres of water, and the taste was a lot better, more subtle, I think 1/3 kg of dates might be about right so that will be then next try.
 
Huh, I never thought you could get _too much_ flavour from a date :) But good job on figuring it out! How sweet does this recipe turn out for you, with 3 kg honey and 7-8 litres water (which strikes me as approximately correct ratio for JAO)
 
Guess they're pretty potent dates. They are probably the next biggest thing after oil here. The trees are everywhere and are well suited to the extreme heat in summer, as in they don't die! LOL. The ones I used are also the really dark sticky ones. I chose them because they are the sweetest and I was looking for the sugar content. 3kg to 7-8 litres is about right for me. I found when I did a 1:2 ratio it was too sweet, but a 1:3 ratio was too dry. It was quite interesting seeing the difference between the two and their clarity. As for using the dates, the batch with 1 kg had such a strong taste of dates that it was hard to get any kind of feeling for sweetness. I've only racked it off once though so I'll see how it ages, the taste might mellow. I'm looking forward to trying the 1/3 kg date batch, hopefully the taste of dates will be a subtle addition to the mead. They all taste strong so far though. Don't have a hydrometer so I've no idea about %.

On a side note, the lychee has aged well. Maybe I'll have to try lychee mead!
 
You could make a home made hydrometer. Take something skinny, like a chopstick and hot glue a steel nut on the bottom. Put it in a vessel of distilled water and mark that level as 1.000 then you need a liquid of known gravity, let's say coca cola and mark it's gravity and then extrapolate from that how far apart to put the gravity points and ouila, home made hydrometer.