New To Mead - Super Basic Mead Advice

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Utaru

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Hello all!

I decided to try making mead for the first time since I've really enjoyed the few meads that I've had in the past and was inspired by a Modern Rogue episode (some probably already know where I'm going with the title now).
My father also used to brew beer when I was a kid, so while I don't know much about the brewing process, I felt it was something I could try out and see if I enjoyed it.

I decided to go with as basic of a setup as I could, since Im just getting my feet wet and didn't want much fuss. I apologize if Im committing horrible sins.
I'm running two 1 gallon batches, aiming for a sweet, still mead around 20% ABV.
The batches were started on 09/14/18
One batch is using bottled distilled water, the other is using bottled spring water, other than that, the recipe is the same for both:

-5 pounds "Pure 'N Simple" honey
-1 gallon of water
-1/2 packet of Lalvin EC-1118

I poured water out of the jugs that the water came in into a separate container until I had enough room to pour 5 pounds of honey in.
I then refilled the jug with missing water until I felt there was enough space that carbonation wouldn't be a problem (I did not know about headspace at the time).
I shook the honey filled water jugs until the mixture looked consistent throughout, and there was no honey still settling at the bottom.
At this point I took my initial gravity and ABV readings. I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but I believe the distilled was around 18% potential and the spring water was around 22% potential. Both were around 1.02 initial gravity.

I took some of the distilled water and heated it up to ~95 degrees Farenheit (measured with a thermometer) and let the yeast hydrate for 20 seconds (I misread the back of the packet and thought the "00:20" was 20 seconds, not 20 minutes!).
Each gallon got half of this hydrated yeast.
I added the yeast to the must and shook up the jugs again to mix it in.
I covered the top of each of the jugs with a balloon with 10 holes poked with a sewing needle, and taped the balloon down.
The jugs have been sitting in a box in the bathroom, with box sides high enough that even with the lights on, the jugs are in the shade.
The balloons have been... erect... since about day 2.
For about the first week, I gave each jug a solid jostle every day to keep the yeast active and check the CO2 production.
After the first week, I gave them a light jostle every other day or so.

It's now been exactly 4 weeks, and I'm starting to consider adding additives in order to stop the fermentation, and then rack/bottle(?) until the mead clears before tasting.
I have NOT taken any extra readings since I started fermentation, I plan to do that when I get home, but I wanted to go ahead and get some input since I've mostly been doing this blind and low-effort.

I hope no one is cringing too hard, I realize this is extremely basic and I've probably committed some horrible atrocities in some circles, but I'm open to advice on how to make my current batch the best it can be.
Thanks!
 
It ought to be very strong and very sweet. What is your gravity now? You must not have mixed it up well initially. That couldn’t have been the initial gravity. That’s a pretty forgiving yeast, and I have brewed many batches over the years with it not really doing it right, but then I never used distilled water and I always added some nutrients up front. Typically, it would take one to two years to be any good. I would be worried about bottle bombs unless I had racked that a couple of times and it was a year old at bottling, unless you sulfite and sorbate it. I am only now doing that for the first few times myself.
 
It ought to be very strong and very sweet. What is your gravity now? You must not have mixed it up well initially. That couldn’t have been the initial gravity. That’s a pretty forgiving yeast, and I have brewed many batches over the years with it not really doing it right, but then I never used distilled water and I always added some nutrients up front. Typically, it would take one to two years to be any good. I would be worried about bottle bombs unless I had racked that a couple of times and it was a year old at bottling, unless you sulfite and sorbate it. I am only now doing that for the first few times myself.

1 to 2 years? Oof. I was kinda hoping to have this around Christmas time, haha.
My initial SG was 1.148 for the Spring and 1.176 for the distilled. It is very possible they were not mixed thoroughly, but visually they looked the same throughout.
I was considering stopping the fermentation here in a week or so (I think that's sulfite and sorbate?), but I wasnt sure how folks around here feel about adding additives.
 
It ought to be very strong and very sweet. What is your gravity now? You must not have mixed it up well initially. That couldn’t have been the initial gravity. That’s a pretty forgiving yeast, and I have brewed many batches over the years with it not really doing it right, but then I never used distilled water and I always added some nutrients up front. Typically, it would take one to two years to be any good. I would be worried about bottle bombs unless I had racked that a couple of times and it was a year old at bottling, unless you sulfite and sorbate it. I am only now doing that for the first few times myself.

My gravity at the start was 1.148 for the Spring and 1.176 for the Distilled (I was very confused when I was recalling it).
1 to 2 years? Oof, I was hoping to have it by Christmas time, haha.
I was definitely considering artifically stopping the fermentation in a week or so (that's sulfite and sorbate right?)
Thanks for the input!
 
If you drink any of that prior to 1 year old, make sure and take a couple of aspirin first. I'm not sure that you will actually be able to stop EC 1118. You could always dilute the must with some water, and if the gravity isn't too far gone you might be able to add some nutrients and make a difference, avoid a stuck fermentation, etc. The batch in the distilled water could use some minerals, Burton water salts or something like that. Yeast need minerals and food. Honey doesn't have either.
 
Hello and welcome to the community.

Your zeal has moved you a little too fast and you have started without any real understanding of what is to be done to make a mead in good fashion. If done right you could have made one ready for Christmas. Don't use distilled water any more. Or at least not during rehydration. It is really bad for the yeast in that process. Forget about "stopping an active mead" it's mostly a lie. Sometimes it can be done if you understand way more than you do right now. Also don't save any yeast in a 5 gram packet. Just use it all. Especially when your trying to make such a big gravity mead. Not sure why you want that anyway. It doesn't taste near as good as a 12%. And takes much longer to mellow out.

Look up gotmeadlive podcast and start on 9/5/17
 
To emphasize what Squatchy said, trying to stop an active fermentation is a bit like trying to stop a train traveling at 150 miles per hour in 20 yards. Unless you really know what you are dong and even then you are not going to stop that train in 20 yards...
 
Thanks for all the advice! Do you folks think I should try and fix it and let it take the time it needs? Or should I dump it and learn using something already concrete like Joe's Ancient Orange?
 
Thanks for all the advice! Do you folks think I should try and fix it and let it take the time it needs? Or should I dump it and learn using something already concrete like Joe's Ancient Orange?

Don't toss it. Hang on to it for a while to see what happens. Why would you want to make a JOAM? They take longer than a regular mead and don't taste half as good. I'd go listen to the podcast and the other things Dave has given you. And then look up a recipe I posted that has won me several medals this year. It's easy as hell and works nicely
 
Don't toss it. Hang on to it for a while to see what happens. Why would you want to make a JOAM? They take longer than a regular mead and don't taste half as good. I'd go listen to the podcast and the other things Dave has given you. And then look up a recipe I posted that has won me several medals this year. It's easy as hell and works nicely

They posted it in the NewBees welcome thread and it looked simple, haha. Plus the two month timeline put it ready right around Christmas.
I'll take a look at your recipe, thank you!
 
They posted it in the NewBees welcome thread and it looked simple, haha. Plus the two month timeline put it ready right around Christmas.
I'll take a look at your recipe, thank you!

It's way more important to learn the process. Then you don't even need a recipe. I could easily make meads starting next week that would be great at Christmas. And they would even be even greater next Christmas.
 
The thing about a JAOM is that this is in fact a novelty recipe and while it actually makes sense in light of what is known about mead making every part of the recipe is counter intuitive and each part as a stand alone ingredient or process makes little sense to seasoned mead makers (there are no measurements, no nutrients, it uses bread yeast, it uses the pith of the orange, you don't "degas" etc etc etc) The irony is that this novelty mead is the one that novices tend to latch onto but the bigger irony is that you will learn nothing about mead making from making JAOM. If you are a seasoned mead maker and you understand the process then JAOM makes sense but if you know very little about mead making then nothing in the recipe or the process will teach you anything useful for any next batch that is not based on this recipe. And the even bigger irony is that novices don't always follow the recipe exactly but think that they can substitute ingredients (you cannot) or substitute activities (you cannot) and still get a drinkable mead...
 
The thing about a JAOM is that this is in fact a novelty recipe and while it actually makes sense in light of what is known about mead making every part of the recipe is counter intuitive and each part as a stand alone ingredient or process makes little sense to seasoned mead makers (there are no measurements, no nutrients, it uses bread yeast, it uses the pith of the orange, you don't "degas" etc etc etc) The irony is that this novelty mead is the one that novices tend to latch onto but the bigger irony is that you will learn nothing about mead making from making JAOM. If you are a seasoned mead maker and you understand the process then JAOM makes sense but if you know very little about mead making then nothing in the recipe or the process will teach you anything useful for any next batch that is not based on this recipe. And the even bigger irony is that novices don't always follow the recipe exactly but think that they can substitute ingredients (you cannot) or substitute activities (you cannot) and still get a drinkable mead...

Not to mention once you make a few meads you realize JOAM is only ok at best. Once you know what your doing, you can come back and make it with modern protocol. And it's miles better