Never buying Dell again

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memento said:
And I'm sure that there's more to it than just raw processor speeds. Did AMD offer competetive pricing? What about a future roadmap and their history to deliver on that? What about integration of chips like controllers and whatnot? Apple cares about aesthetics more than any other computer company, and if Intel has the ability to integrate multiple chips, then that gives Apple a design advantage.

Actually, right now Intel's roadmap is a mess. They don't have an answer for AMD's biggest and best that is within reach in the next year or two. Their chips are slower. They produce more heat. What Intel does have is a proven track record which is something AMD has managed to blow on many occasions. They also have the ability to produce their own custom chipsets.

That being said, don't really want to start an Apple vs. M$, or Intel vs. AMD flame war here. However I would be very surprised if we don't see some Apple on AMD sometime in the near future. Sure Intel's ability to do their own chipsets (and in the process be able to cook up any scheme Apple wants/requires to prevent OSX from becoming easily stolen) probably won them over to the Intel side of things but the cold hard fact is that neither company has been even close to adequate on the supply side. Neither one can crank out enough chips. Add on to their usual supply problems additional demand from one of the most demanding companies on the planet and I think Intel is going to find themselves with a huge chip deficit. I think that together both companies can keep the beige box crowd happy while keeping Steve into parts as well.
 
jab said:
Actually, right now Intel's roadmap is a mess. They don't have an answer for AMD's biggest and best that is within reach in the next year or two. Their chips are slower. They produce more heat. What Intel does have is a proven track record which is something AMD has managed to blow on many occasions. They also have the ability to produce their own custom chipsets.

That is my point. I don't wish to start a flame war, eithor. I have heard from a number of dedicated Mac user that are wondering why they didn't go with the faster chips.

I'm sure it will all play out in the end.
 
Like I said above (or below depending on how you have the responses sorted :o ) it really had nothing to do with the chips. It came down to the fact that right now Intel is the total package. They made the chips (the fact that they are a little behind AMD had no bearing) and the chipsets. The chipset was key for the type of protection Apple wanted. BIOS is dying (finally) and we have Apple to thank for it.

Once AMD can convince their chipset partners of the same thing and can provide Apple with a solution they won't have to wait on I think Apple will be forced to use a little of both just to meet demand because like I said, I don't believe either company can supply enough chips on their own.
 
I have had decent luck with Toshiba's in the past as well. Though I have to admit, I am waiting for the 17" MacBook to come out before I buy another laptop.
 
Fujitsu is the top mark in the wintel market by my estimation. Looks like the malicious coders that spawn all these nasty viruses are getting bored with Wintel now and turning their attention to OS X. It kinda sucks that you have a great operating system out there like OS X, and a bunch of idiots that just have to try and screw with it because they have nothing better to do. Weasels.

Cheers,

Oskaar
 
Well, I ended up buying Dell after all. I got a very responsive bunch of folks to my nastygram, they solved my issues with my old system, and gave me employee pricing on a Dell Latitude D610 with all the bells and whistles. So, they get a stay of execution......

I've been a fan of Dell for so many years, and I never stopped liking their equipment, its just that their service sucks these days.

Vicky - staying with a friend who works for Dell (and who also thinks the service stinks - she's a programmer for them)