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Questions for the SCA'ers amongst us - Need your input

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I got this a while back from an interested person, and thought that those of you who are long-time SCA or just good SCA brewers might be able to answer one or more of them:

1.) How many of your (the Brewmaster's) recipes are original, and how many recreations? For the originals, do you feel it important to stick to period styles, using only those ingredients in common usage in Europe during a particular time frame, or can you/must you take certain liberties? For originals, is doing a period recipe even important? For recreations, please describe the processes involved, including adapting the measurements into usable modern terms. I, for one, would like to take a crack at some of old Digby's recipes, but I'm intimidated by the terms and quantities!

2.) While the guild structure generally used by brewers in the SCA is obviously good from a learning/teaching standpoint, is there a mechanism in place for the free exchange of ideas between guilds, or is it also important to simulate the proprietary closeness that was the historical norm among guilds?

3.) Where do they (the Brewmasters), taken individually, come down on the "all-natural vs. chemical adjunct" question? Personally, there have definitely been times when better living has been through chemistry -- especially when something has gone wrong with a batch. Since SCA events often require brewing in large quantities, there are a lot of ingredients, and therefore money, involved -- and that's a lot to lose should a batch turn sour (unless, of course, you wanted it sour).

4.) Is anyone culturing their own yeasts?

5.) What moves faster at SCA events -- beers, wines, or meads? Why do they think this is?

6.) Is anyone a beekeeper? How about a barley or hops grower?

7.) What are the judging criteria for SCA mead events? Can you get ahold of a copy of these rules? Who are the judges, and what are the accepted categories? Does this vary from guild to guild?


Thanks for your help, folks!

vicky - new to this stuff myself
 

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1. Almost all original recipes with historical reference.

2. Nothing formal. The Inter-Kingdom Brewing Guild is a start, but mostly brewers will post their stuff online when able.

3. Personally, I haven't ever done a batch larger than 10 gal. What I have encountered is more of a "small-batch, large-variety" type of brewer than a mass production specialist.

4. No, but interested.

5. Mead, by far. Cordials are a close second. IMHO.

6. Interested in both. Space and time are too limited for me.

7. http://www.midrealm.org/moas/criteria and http:/www.greydragon.org/ikbg. Judges are mostly those who volunteer. There isn't any one judging certification ala AHA. If you are known as a brewer, you will probably be asked to judge.
 

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Vicky,

I'm not a long-time SCA member and I consider myself a non-traditional member since I live on the fringes of Calontir in an area with little support. I make my mead for consumption within my local group, to provide as largess at events (like bringing a bottle of wine to a dinner party), or to take with me to share with others at events in other kingdoms. The enjoyment and appreciation I get from them is my only concern.

I know no of one else in my kingdom who makes mead. I also enjoy rapier and since it isn't legal within Calontir, like the mead, I tend to do it for my own personal enjoyment or out-of-kingdom. In short, I'm not as concerned with acceptance within the SCA, traditional recipes, use of modern chemicals, documentation, A&S judging, or providing mead for the entire Kingdom as I am with making a quality mead that my friends and I enjoy.

In my experience beer and mead are both equally welcome, as long as there's plenty and it's free! ;D
 

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My answers pretty much line up with Mike's excpet I have no interest in doing my own yeast cultures...

I would comment that at Pennsic, in the DeLondres camp, mead is king. Two years ago the Baron's brought roughly 40 gallons of mead and 20 gallons of beer. We used all of the mead and didn't even finish 5 gallons of the ale/beer. Last year the Baron's brought 60 gallons of mead and we went through most of it.

I suppose what goes fastest depends on the quality. IMHO, good beer will go as fast as bad mead but good meads and wines will always go faster than good beer.
 

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Hi Vicky
In the six or seven years I have been in the sca I have noticed a trend towards two types of brewing. Small gallon batch very traditional documentable recipies for competion and large batch more modern style brewing for enjoying around the site.
I have yet to meet anyone from Meridies who is in a brewing guild so I can't comment.As much as I love the people in the sca the higher ups that I have met have tend to get a bit lazy so I would guess no on inter guild comunication.
On all-natural verses chemical it goesback to the two styles of brewing. The larger batches for enjoyment are much more likly to have been treated with modern chemisty than the smaller gallon size batches.
I camp with Vikings Vicky.Several of them are culturing veasts in their beards!
Last year at fools war a lord, can't remember his name, came with 16 gallons of blueberry mead, and no intentions of taking any home.My wife and I took 12 bottles of Blackberry cordial and came back with half of one bottle. The beer I have seen for the most part is not homebrewed but certinly holds it's own place. My own personal choice is for sweet meads and Apple pie(Capt. Morgan"s and apple cider with the spices you would put in homemade apple pie}
Beekeeping is not a option for me as my lady is hyper- allergic to bee stings.One sting and where headed to the emergency room.
I haven't seen a judging so I can't coment without my ignorance showing.
Well my best to you and yours,
Tarot
p.s. Vicky if you go to Gulf wars and camp with Shadow legion cross the street to Nova Camp and ask for Muirghein Tarot and Teren the Valkerie
 

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Muirghein Tarot said:
Hi Vicky
In the six or seven years I have been in the sca I have noticed a trend towards two types of brewing. Small gallon batch very traditional documentable recipies for competion and large batch more modern style brewing for enjoying around the site.
I have yet to meet anyone from Meridies who is in a brewing guild so I can't comment.As much as I love the people in the sca the higher ups that I have met have tend to get a bit lazy so I would guess no on inter guild comunication.
On all-natural verses chemical it goesback to the two styles of brewing. The larger batches for enjoyment are much more likly to have been treated with modern chemisty than the smaller gallon size batches.

That's been my findings in the various folks I've encountered too.
I camp with Vikings Vicky.Several of them are culturing veasts in their beards!

LOL.....some of my Scot friends are like that......

Last year at fools war a lord, can't remember his name, came with 16 gallons of blueberry mead, and no intentions of taking any home.My wife and I took 12 bottles of Blackberry cordial and came back with half of one bottle. The beer I have seen for the most part is not homebrewed but certinly holds it's own place. My own personal choice is for sweet meads and Apple pie(Capt. Morgan"s and apple cider with the spices you would put in homemade apple pie}

Yeah, I came home with a number of empty bottles too. I'm putting up several cordials right now in prep for Pennsic this year, and really have to pitch a batch of Joes Ancient Orange to take.....and maybe an Orange Blossom too.
Beekeeping is not a option for me as my lady is hyper- allergic to bee stings.One sting and where headed to the emergency room.
I can see where that would be a bit of a problem!
I haven't seen a judging so I can't coment without my ignorance showing.

LOL...I've learned by going to judgings. Last year's Pennsic competition was well done, I thought, and of the judges I spoke with, most seemed to have a good knowledge of what a particular type of mead should do...

p.s. Vicky if you go to Gulf wars and camp with Shadow legion cross the street to Nova Camp and ask for Muirghein Tarot and Teren the Valkerie

I will! I didn't make it to Gulf Wars this year (not enough money or time), but will be at Pennsic second week (Aug 12-20). I might make Gulf Wars next year, but it all depends on when the International Mead Festival falls, and whether I've any money after (that usually taxes my meager travel funds).

Welcome to the forums, by the way! And thanks for your input on the SCA front!

Vicky - working on the store (still)
 

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Re: Questions for the Skaters amongst us - Need your input

Last year at fools war (2005)

Yeah, I came home with a number of empty bottles too


Where you at Fools War in 2005 or did I read that wrong?
If you where you may have heard my lady. We spent most of the weekend in the tent of a merchant friend of ours named Drago. Several times that weekend she did her valkerie cry (think Zena war cry but she hates that comparison). I know for fact she can be heard across the fools war site. The loudest was heard at troll down by the road and a lady we know came up from the quiet camping down by the lake having heard and came to say hello we were in the first camp as you came up the road maybe 100 yards from merchants
 

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Nope, I wasn't at Fools War. Pennsic is the only Knowne World level event I've attended (so far).

Sounds like your Lady has a healthy set of lungs!

I'm thinking about teaching a mead-making class at Pennsic this year....I'd *like* to get someone to help out, specifically someone who can address some of the period things about mead-making, since most of my experience is modern.

Vicky - wrassling with the International Mead Festival Site, trying to update into an new format...
 
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